Newly released transcripts from the Department of Justice reveal that Ghislaine Maxwell—Jeffrey Epstein’s longtime associate now serving a 20-year prison sentence—told federal investigators she never saw former President Donald Trump engage in any inappropriate or sexual behavior. Maxwell described Trump as a “gentleman in all respects” and said she never once witnessed him in a massage setting or any compromising environment.
For those wanting to review her words firsthand, both the DOJ’s official transcript and audio recordings of Maxwell’s interview are now available to the public.
The Context Behind the Transcripts
The release comes as the Trump administration faces continued media attacks linking him to Epstein. For years, Democrats and their allies in the press have tried to smear Trump with the scandal, despite the lack of evidence. Maxwell’s comments directly refute these allegations. She also dismissed claims of a so-called Epstein “client list,” which Attorney General Pam Bondi had once suggested existed, but which the DOJ later confirmed did not.
MAGA Reacts: Vindication After Years of Smears
Trump supporters were quick to seize on Maxwell’s testimony as vindication. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene declared that if there had ever been evidence against Trump, Democrats would have used it long ago. Conservative activist Laura Loomer echoed the sentiment, saying the testimony proves Trump has “always been an honorable person.” Popular MAGA influencer Rogan O’Handley, known as “DC Draino,” wrote that if Trump had been a client, “the Deep State would’ve already leaked it.”
Democrats Push the “Pardon” Narrative
Democrats, however, were quick to attack Maxwell’s credibility. Rep. Robert Garcia called her a “convicted sex trafficker and known liar” desperate for a pardon. Rep. Yassamin Ansari of Arizona went further, calling Trump “the most corrupt president in American history” and dismissing Maxwell’s words as worthless. Their argument boils down to this: Maxwell only cleared Trump because she hopes he’ll pardon her if he returns to office.
Why the Pardon Angle Falls Apart
The problem with that theory is simple—it’s weak. Trump doesn’t need Maxwell’s testimony to be “cleared.” For decades, investigators and political opponents have scoured Epstein’s case for anything tying Trump to the scandal. Nothing ever surfaced. If evidence existed, it would have been used against him long ago.
Even more, Maxwell didn’t just defend Trump. She also claimed she never saw misconduct from Bill Clinton or Prince Andrew. That undermines the idea that she was tailoring her testimony just to Trump. And realistically, the notion that Trump would risk political capital to pardon a convicted sex trafficker is far-fetched at best. Democrats’ spin says more about their desperation than it does about Trump.
The Epstein Records Controversy
The transcripts come as the DOJ faces criticism over its handling of Epstein-related records. In July, the Justice Department released a memo declaring Epstein’s 2019 jail death a suicide, despite years of conspiracy theories. Officials also confirmed no additional files would be made public, infuriating Trump supporters who believe the case was covered up to protect Epstein’s powerful friends. The House Oversight Committee has now begun receiving records and says it will release them publicly once victims’ information is redacted.
Why It Matters
For Trump, Maxwell’s testimony is a powerful rebuttal to years of speculation and smears. It puts him in direct contrast with the “usual suspects” tied to Epstein—Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew among them—while Democrats struggle to explain why the narrative they pushed for years continues to collapse. For Maxwell, the interview appears to be a calculated attempt to soften her image as she appeals her conviction to the Supreme Court this fall.
What’s Next
The Supreme Court is expected to decide in late September whether it will take up Maxwell’s appeal. Meanwhile, the Oversight Committee is preparing to release portions of Epstein’s files, which may shed light on why certain names and connections were buried while others—particularly Trump—were elevated in media narratives.
Final Thoughts
This release is a turning point in the Epstein saga. After years of accusations, innuendo, and media speculation, Maxwell herself has confirmed what Trump and his supporters have said all along—there is no evidence tying him to Epstein’s crimes. Democrats’ fallback argument that she’s angling for a pardon is flimsy at best and reeks of desperation. The question now is not about Trump, but about who in Epstein’s orbit was protected, and why the DOJ has been so reluctant to open those files.
h/t: Steadfast and Loyal
The thing that is just amazing it was only a few years ago when Epstein was still in Prison in New York the news some how going over a story of Epstein & Bill Clinton showed a Photo of Clinton found in the New York apartment of Epstein t5hat was quite revealing. There is Clinton seated in a huge chair with his beautiful purple dress on with arm hanging off edge and long fluffy hair. A wonderful Cross-Dresser he made. Where did that photo go? These people are such a disgrace. All who have had the Power and only looked out for themselves. How Sad. When it comes to Suicide I’ll side with Maxwell!